Is there life after trading?

silverside · Post by **silverside** » Mon Jan 25, 2016 4:20 pm

@strange:

Hi

If you want to talk about (b) let me know. I don't have a job for you but I'm happy to chat.

I don't see why physical location (Manhattan vs somewhere like Connecticut or even Philly) would be such an issue for an employer but then I don't know the local market.

Bonne chance, with your experience there's gotta be something out there.

Strange · Post by **Strange** » Mon Jan 25, 2016 5:17 pm

@[url=/User/Show%20User%20Details.aspx?UserIDKey=82]silverside[/url] - yeah, I'd love to have a chat about it, especially the experiences. Seems like the industry is hiring, too.

tabris · Post by **tabris** » Tue Jan 26, 2016 1:01 am

Strange - if you don't get the face time or don't have the connections with real money guys, going via headhunters might be the best way. That side, if New York and London aren't really your thing, then I don't really know too many guys that reside in suburbs. Off the top of my head, I'd say Gamco is around that area you are looking. Otherwise you might need to go to Boston.

svisstack · Post by **svisstack** » Tue Jan 26, 2016 11:51 am

>> (c) join a fintech startup. Plenty of those around at the moment and I have my own ideas on what might work etc. The negative is that it's likely to be long hours and crazy project pressures.

that's true but in my case working on something new over nights, constantly challenging yourself, doing that with ultra-limited resources on startup is great,

depends on what is working for you,

TSWP · Post by **TSWP** » Tue Jan 26, 2016 4:46 pm

>I would consider Europe proper (Swiss would be awesome), but not London.

Strange, PM privately if you want, I operate my own AG from Switzerland, not hiring but I have contacts that I am willing to give to you and then you can take it from there.

nuprin · Post by **nuprin** » Fri Jan 29, 2016 6:21 am

@Strange: Sounds like a plan. At the risk of stating the obvious, esp. to someone experienced, let me say: if I were negotiating an exit, I'd frame it more as my wanting to pursue hobbies, dabble in startups, join the Peace Corps, etc., i.e moving *to* something else, rather than moving *away* from your current work/people/firm. Again, this is based on successful exits I've observed.

As for fintech startups, I've talked over past year with several out here in California. Not an expert, but can share what I happen to know, over email.

Bloomberg is in SF. They have lots of people doing Machine Learning. IIRC, they have a Product Specialist or two out here, as well.

Scotty · Post by **Scotty** » Thu Feb 11, 2016 1:59 pm

Well, here in Singapore we are building out a hedge fund incubator for both discretionary and systematic traders called Kit-Trading. May be of interest.

Strange · Post by **Strange** » Thu Feb 18, 2016 3:28 pm

Singapore is a bit too far and too flat for my taste, but I am considering various buy-side opportunities along these lines. Not sure if it would bring me the peace and quiet, but I will remove myself from the sell-side bullshit at the very least.

goldorak · Post by **goldorak** » Fri Feb 19, 2016 7:56 pm

You will still get the sell side bs on the phone everyday.

You do not get rid of the dark side that easily... Evil Grin

katastrofa · Post by **katastrofa** » Sat Feb 27, 2016 1:23 am

[q]that's true but in my case working on something new over nights, constantly challenging yourself, doing that with ultra-limited resources on startup is great,

depends on what is working for you, [/q]

Been there... the moment you realise that the equity grant rules are stacked against everyone except the founder and the investors, your motivation goes away ${L_SMILIES_WINK}$