Hedging swap rates volatilities definition

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Tyszui
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Hi everybody!



I work for an Insurance Company specialised in Variable Annuities and, as you can guess, defining meaningful assumption on risk factors' volatilities is key for hedging the options we sell to customers.



For long term interest rate volatility assumption, we currently use a matrix of ATM Swaption Black Volatilities, which is deemed to be constant for long time. The Hull White One Factor model is calibrated on this structure using current interest rates.



My feeling is that this procedure is wrong because we don't capture the leverage effect between forward rates and Black volatilities.



I would rather define a matrix of ATM Normal Volatilities, convert them to Black ones using current ATM Forward Rates and calibrate the HW on these recalculated Black ones.



Long term, I would abandon HW for CEV or SABR, but this is a different story.... :-)



Any idea/suggestion? How do you define hedging assumptions in your experience?



Thanks a lot!
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Hi,



why do you keep your vol matrix constant? You could for example close on a big broker's vol grid on a daily basis, like ICAP for example. If you only remark you vol matrix infrequently you must be getting very important p&l swings plus your market to market on a daily basis is non-existent.



Not sure what you mean by leverage effect. That sounds like equity options terminology, but the corresponding effect is not typically relevant in rates. Maybe you mean 'level effect' or 'vol backbone', which are synonymous terms and which refer to the relationship between the underlying and the option implied volatility.



From this perspective reasoning in terms of normal vols is generally more appropriate, admittedly, although the lognormal vol assumption is still superior to the normal assumption for short-expiry short-tail options. It seems that you are more concerned about long-dated vols though.



In any case, it's not clear that all this matters for your purposes anyway. It depends what you are using your model for. If you just want to mark p&l for example, it is not going to make any difference whether you use lognormal or normal vols to estimate you term structure model - provided lognormal and normal vols are calibrated one against the other. If you actually use your model to hedge delta and vega, then it is going to start making a difference. But even then the whole lognormal vs normal model/vol folklore is idealized. None of these economicall simplistic, albeit mathematically complex, models such as lognormal, normal, CEV or SABR models are really useful for hedging purposes. If you want to do a superior job on hedging, you need to do it heuristically, no model (I know of) can save you from doing that.



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Post by Tyszui »

Thanks a lot for your reply. Insurance guarantees are very long term options on the pension investment of our clients we sell in order to protect policyholder's investment. We are therefore seller of options - very risky!



How to price these options (which can be very exotic, with cliquet and loopback features) is more art than science. In particular, interest rate sensitivity is key when it comes to discount cash flows that will potentially take place in 30 to 50 years.



One thing that actuaries really require (believe it or not) is that the IR volatility assumption used for pricing these options should not vary with time and should be quite conservative (ie. somewhat high). These assumed volatilities are typically calculated taking a (60%-65%) percentile of historical Black implied volatilities for different levels of maturities/term. You can imagine there is some "mean-reverting in the long term" rationale behind this practice.



No matter what level of interest rates, we would hence price liars with the same vol, missing the fact that for swap's rate decrease, Black volatilities tend to increase and vice-versa (this is the "leverage" effect I was referring to...now I see that in IR jargon it is called level effect! :-) ).



Given we hedge DV01 of this option, the assumed liabs volatility becomes crucial when it comes to convexity P&L estimation. Marking to market the assets in fact create huge P&L swings depending on interest rate movements (if long term swap rates decrease a lot, like they are doing in EUR and JPY, Black vols increase a lot potentially surpassing the fixed liability ones and viceversa).



My idea is that if we were to assume normal volatilities on the liabs at least once we convert them into Black ones (ie. dividing for the forward rate) we would be able to replicate the level effect we have on the asset side and potentially hedging it.



Hope this clarifies the things a little bit better. :-)
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Post by Tyszui »

mtsm,



I have actually surfed quite a bit on the forum and I dug the following thread which, in different words, looks at the same topic



https://nuclearphynance.com/Show%20Post.aspx?PostIDKey=147846



In particular, some slides on the masterclass from Patrick Hagan on Managing Smile Risk and Exotics.



I noticed that another user asked you for these slides. If you still have them, would you mind sending those to the public email you can see for my user?



I'd be very grateful!



Thanks again!
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Hi, yes that makes sense. I see that your perspective is quite different from that of a market making desk for example. It's interesting stuff. I have seen some modeling work done here there for/by ALM people.



Again, maybe for you it would make more sense to assume the volatility backbone is more normal than lognormal. I think that what you are saying is that if you assume volatilities to be constant according to some prescription like you cite in your post, then you might as well assume normal vols to be constant instead of lognormal ones.



From a more micro-angle as I said before, that is an oversimplification. Rates aren't exactly normal ever, but to the extent that a quasi-deterministic rate-vol relationship is even meaningful, that relationship could be better described by a family of CEV-processes suitable parametrized.



But even that doesn't really hold. For example very long-dated vols fall outside of these considerations, precisely due to (insurance) people like you, if I may say...
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Hi, I can forward you some hagan course notes I picked up on the web. Is that what you want?
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mtst, thanks a lot for your last post, it was very clear!



Yes, if you could forward me the hagan course that would be perfect!



Thanks again.
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