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Forward starting volatility swap price

Posted: Sat May 12, 2018 4:24 am
by frolloos
A working paper on model-free pricing of forward starting volatility swap:



https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3177299



Comments welcome of course.

Forward starting volatility swap price

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 1:11 pm
by alexandergir
We knew that fair vol swap is cost of gamma, and Rolloos & Arslan derived this in a few ways independently a couple years ago. Great to see this generalized to forward start! Thank you Frido.

Forward starting volatility swap price

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 2:03 pm
by frolloos
Me thinks there could be a small error in the paper actually - so advise to not use it for now :) Will let forum know when/if corrected.



EDIT:

Paper has been corrected and available for download again at given SSRN link. Conclusion hasn't changed, just the derivation of it. But contact me if any questions/comments.

Forward starting volatility swap price

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 12:29 am
by Strange
@frolloos



I am trying to play with the spot-starting version to imply var and vol swap strikes and getting results that make no sense. Do you mind pasting a numerical example?

Forward starting volatility swap price

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 1:30 am
by frolloos
Which of my scribbles are you referring to? The "Taylor made" paper only tells you to approximate the volstrike from the d2=0 strike, not the varswap strike. The "It takes three" stuff approximates both the volstrike and varswap strike from 3 pillar options. Are you referring to the latter?

Forward starting volatility swap price

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 5:01 am
by Strange
It's the Takes Three paper, yes. I literally took 3 options from the Jan SPX expiration and tried to reproduce the calculation -ni.e. i take sensible vega/vanna/volga, but the matrix makes no sense.

Forward starting volatility swap price

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 6:03 am
by frolloos
I sent you the simple workbook I used. Have a look and let me / phorum know if still getting nonsensical results.