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-------------------------- source: Bloomberg ----------------------------



Societe Generale, Mergers Weakling, Leads in Equity Derivatives

2005-11-27 20:55 (New York)



By Jacqueline Simmons

     Nov. 28 (Bloomberg) -- Societe Generale SA, the French

retail bank created under Napoleon III, put two employees to work

in an office a block from the Galeries Lafayette department store

in central Paris in 1985.

     Two decades later, the team numbers 2,000 people in 60

countries.

     In a bustling trading room that links the bank's 36- and 37-

story office towers overlooking the French capital, traders and

salespeople sit in orderly rows. From 8 a.m. to 10 p.m., when

work shifts to other markets, they design, sell and trade some of

the hottest and most complex instruments in international

finance: equity derivatives. Investors buy the securities, whose

value is based on a stock or index, to cushion their holdings

against unexpected market swings.

     Societe Generale takes in more money selling equity

derivatives than any other bank in the world: as much as $2

billion in revenue in 2004, according to estimates by Merrill

Lynch & Co. and Morgan Stanley. The bank has deployed

mathematics-savvy recruits to become a leader in the lucrative

niche. It fashions ever-more-intricate derivatives -- too

intricate, some clients say -- and offers them to banks and

individuals worldwide.

     ``They've got massive scale, and scale is a barrier to entry

in equity derivatives,'' says Kinner Lakhani, a banking analyst

in London for Amsterdam-based ABN Amro NV. ``Beyond that, it's

their intellectual capital, a function of the presence they have

in Paris, and grads coming out of math colleges in France. Their

existing franchise has been ahead of the curve on all of this,

and they innovate on a monthly basis.''



                         First-Half Spurt



     The growth continues. In the first half of 2005 alone,

equity derivatives generated about 1.3 billion euros ($1.54

billion) of revenue for Societe Generale, London-based Morgan

Stanley analyst Stephen Jarvis estimates.

     Equity derivatives typically are options -- contracts that

give an investor the right, though not the obligation, to buy or

sell a security or index at a given price at some future date. A

put option affords the right to sell; a call option gives the

right to buy.

     Just as an insurance policy protects against an accident,

options let investors hedge against an unexpected rise or fall of

a security or index, such as the plunge in technology shares that

sent stock markets sliding in 2000.

     ``Demand accelerated massively when you had the bubble

bursting in 2000, and investors became a lot more skeptical about

the overall returns of the stock market,'' says Vasco Moreno,

head of European bank research at Keefe, Bruyette & Woods Ltd. in

London.



                        $8 Trillion Market



     As investors ranging from pension and hedge funds to wealthy

individuals look for ways to safeguard their investments, the $8

trillion equity derivatives market is booming. Of the $184

billion in investment banking revenue the world's banks reported

in 2004, equity derivatives contributed $14 billion, or 7.6

percent, according to an Aug. 23 report by Boston Consulting

Group Inc. That may increase to $20 billion by 2007, the study

said.

     The notional amount, or face value, of equity derivatives

traded over the counter -- not the money that changes hands but

the amount buyers and sellers use to calculate eventual payoffs -

- almost doubled to $4.39 trillion in 2004 from 2002, according

to the Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland.

For exchange-traded derivatives, the amount nearly doubled in two

years, to $3.7 trillion, the BIS says.



                            Annual Fees



     Societe Generale makes money in derivatives by trading with

its own capital, trading options for clients and charging fees to

investors. Banks producing structured products -- derivatives

that usually combine a bond with an index option -- charge an

annual fee of 0.10 percent to 0.20 percent of the value of the

derivative, depending on the complexity and risk involved, says

Dixit Joshi, head of equity derivatives at the Barclays Capital

unit of London-based Barclays Plc.

     The bond in a structured derivative guarantees payment of at

least the initial investment at maturity. That means investors

can do no worse than get their money back at the completion of

the contract and may have gains, based on the performance of

indexes or individual stocks.

     To determine the value of a structured derivative in order

to set a fee, banks use a formula that includes the price of the

stock or index, interest rates and measures of market volatility,

among other factors.



                          `Strong Skills'



     ``Societe Generale decided quite early on that equity

derivatives was an area they wanted to focus on and took on a lot

of people with strong skills,'' says Donald Linderyd, an analyst

at London-based Merchant Securities. ``They've distanced

themselves quite considerably from the American, U.K. and German

investment banks.''

     Societe Generale said Nov. 17 that third-quarter net income

rose 40 percent to 1.13 billion euros, ahead of analysts'

expectations, as revenue from the equities and advisory business,

which includes derivatives, increased by a quarter to 694 million

euros.

     It was the best third quarter ever for equity derivative

sales at the bank, says Christophe Mianne, 42, who has run

Societe Generale's equity derivatives unit since 1999.

     Societe Generale's sprint to the top in equity derivatives

is more than an example of French agility among heftier U.S.

investment banks. It also reveals how a nation's focus on

mathematics education can pay off for bankers.



                        Stochastic Calculus



     To engineer options-based contracts, Societe Generale has

hired employees schooled in everything from partial differential

equations to probability concepts like stochastic calculus and

Brownian motion. The bank added computer systems fast enough to

process risk models in real time during the trading day. Societe

Generale says it invests more than 100 million euros a year -- 3

percent of its 2004 earnings -- on such information technology,

or IT.

     ``The French banks are ahead because of their experience,

technical expertise, platforms, quantitative capabilities and IT

infrastructure, which are second to none,'' says Bahadour Moussa,

a recruiter who focuses on derivatives specialists at London-

based executive search firm Huxley Associates. ``A U.S. bank that

wants to replicate this now would need to make massive

investments into new technologies, platforms and people.''

     While the higher math allows Societe Generale to craft

customized hedging strategies, the complexity can be baffling and

risky, specialists and regulators say.



                          `Can Be Risky'



     ``I can't find a good motivation for this complexity,'' says

Nicole El Karoui, who has trained students for finance jobs as a

professor of applied mathematics at Ecole Polytechnique, France's

premier science and engineering graduate school. ``There's a

responsibility to explain that, in fact, the product can be too

risky and difficult to analyze.''

     U.S. regulators say equity derivatives may not be

appropriate for anyone other than the savviest investor.

Washington-based NASD, formerly the National Association of

Securities Dealers, in September issued a report to members

expressing concern they may not be adequately explaining to

investors how much can be lost if things go wrong.

     Jacques Verdier, a fund manager at Paris-based Banque de

Neuflize, a unit of ABN Amro, says that fathoming some of the

offerings is a challenge.

     ``SG's team has a technical level that is very high,

sometimes too high,'' he says. ``We don't always have the means

to understand these products or appreciate them enough, so we

haven't always wanted to invest.''



                        `Dangerous Game'



     The real risk arises when customers don't grasp how the

instrument works, says John Osborn, head of the derivatives

practice at New York law firm Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher &

Flom LLP.

     ``The products themselves are neutral,'' he says. ``It's

just a question of getting people into what they know and

understand.''

     There are risks, as well, for the banks selling equity

derivatives, ABN Amro's Lakhani says. ``If you don't get the risk

right, it's an extremely dangerous game to be in,'' he says.

     In September, Credit Industriel & Commercial, or CIC, the

investment banking arm of Paris-based Credit Mutuel, said it had

one-time losses of 320 million euros on equity derivative-related

contracts for the six months ended on June 30. In June, the bank

had said on its Web site that the losses came from the sale of

``potential risks'' on structured derivatives, giving no details.

In 2004, the bank's net income was 550 million euros.



                         Two Losing Months



     Jean-Pierre Mustier, the head of Societe Generale's

corporate and investment banking unit, says his bank has had only

two losing months in equity derivatives in the past 15 years.

Corporate and investment banking accounted for 44 percent of

Societe Generale's 3.3 billion euros of earnings in 2004.

     ``I'm not saying we make money every day,'' says Mustier, a

former derivatives trader who turns 45 in January.

     Societe Generale started trading equity derivatives almost

20 years ago partly because it was late investing in the

personnel required to compete with its U.S. rivals in the

profitable fields of mergers advice and stock underwriting.

     ``French banks were considered weak in investment banking,''

says Antoine Paille, who originated Societe Generale's equity

derivatives effort in the mid-1980s from the office near Galeries

Lafayette.

     In corporate and investment banking, a category commonly

used by banks to show financial results in underwriting, mergers

and other areas, including equity derivatives, Societe Generale

trails the leaders. Its corporate and investment banking net

income for 2004 was 1.45 billion euros.



                         BNP Paribas No. 2



     By comparison, New York-based Citigroup Inc. earned $6.4

billion. In France, Societe Generale lagged Paris-based BNP

Paribas SA in 2005 in bond underwriting, mergers advice and

syndicated loans in late 2005, according to data compiled by

Bloomberg. Merrill Lynch analyst Jacques-Henri Gaulard ranks BNP

Paribas, Europe's fourth-largest bank, second in the world in

annual revenue from equity derivatives, with about $1.2 billion.

     ``There's no question that SocGen and BNP are very strong in

equity derivatives,'' says Joseph Elmlinger, head of global

equity derivatives at Citigroup. ``Why? They started early,

committed a lot of resources to it.''

     That has allowed the French banks to build a reputation that

attracts the best job candidates.

     ``When I was a young engineering-school student, I thought

the best banks were American ones like Goldman or Morgan

Stanley,'' says Marc Atlan, 26, who is completing his doctorate

at the Universite Pierre & Marie Curie in Paris on finance-

related probability theory while working in BNP Paribas's

derivatives department. ``Later, I realized that for equity

derivatives, BNP and SG were the best in the world.''



                           Shares Rising



     Shares of Societe Generale surged 38 percent in the 12

months ended on Nov. 25, to 101.90 euros, amid growth in retail

banking in Eastern Europe and in equity derivatives. In the same

period, the 78-member Bloomberg Europe Banks and Financial

Services Index rose 23 percent. Among the 39 analysts who follow

the stock, 16 rate it ``buy'' and 14 rate it ``hold.''

     One with a ``hold'' rating, Guillaume Tiberghien at Deutsche

Bank AG in London, says corporate and investment banking performs

well at Societe Generale yet has a limited focus: derivatives,

capital markets and structured finance, which includes private

equity and commodities. ``Such a narrow focus may make the bank's

earnings more volatile,'' Tiberghien says.

     Societe Generale plunged into the esoteric realm of

derivatives soon after it hired Paille in 1984. He was 29, a

former computer-services specialist and a graduate of France's

top statistics school, Ecole Nationale de la Statistique et de

l'Administration Economique, or Ensae, located just outside Paris.

Options fascinated him.



                        `Transform' Banking



     ``Options seemed to unite math, statistics and computers,''

Paille recalls. ``I felt this was an area that would transform

the banking environment, and I didn't want to copy what other

banks were doing.''

     With the blessing of Jean-Bernard Guillebert, who helped

oversee Societe Generale's capital markets group, Paille started

an options division by focusing first on currencies. His timing

was good. In 1985, the U.S. dollar fell against the French franc,

deutsche mark and Japanese yen, aided by a coordinated effort

among central banks under the Plaza Accord announced that

September.

     France's equivalent of the U.S. Export-Import Bank, known as

Coface, sought bids from banks to help offset bad currency bets,

according to Paille. Societe Generale won the bidding, and Paille

oversaw the contract, which involved trading options on the

dollar.



                          Grandes Ecoles



     ``That was the deal that really kicked us off,'' Paille says.

     Paille followed with options on interest rates and then

equities. He needed a custom-designed computer program, and he

needed brainpower. For both, he turned to the postgraduate

programs at Ecole Polytechnique and Ecole Centrale Paris. Created

in 1829, Ecole Centrale trains industrial engineers. Its alumni

include people named Michelin and Schlumberger.

     Both institutions are among France's Grandes Ecoles, the

state-financed graduate schools that produce the nation's

managerial class and political elite.

     ``We went across the campuses of the Grandes Ecoles pitching

our business,'' Paille says.

     In 1987, he expanded the team to include quantitative

analysts, then traders. ``My project was to create an area of

strength within the bank,'' Paille, now 50, says. ``Our strategy

was to be a world leader.''



                          Inaugural Trade



     Among the young graduates he hired was Mustier, who had

taken classes at Ecole Polytechnique before transferring to Ecole

des Mines, another of the Grandes Ecoles in Paris that focuses on

science and technology.

     Mustier descended onto the floor of the Paris bourse on the

morning of Sept. 10, 1987, to execute Societe Generale's

inaugural trade in equity derivatives. He was 26.

     ``We were dead scared,'' he recalls. Before him stood a

horde of U.S. and Canadian dealers posted to Paris by their banks

as the bourse's market for listed options, called the Monep,

opened for business. The traders were hand signaling orders with

a mere flick of the wrist. It was intimidating.

     ``We had an Anglo-Saxon complex,'' Mustier says, using a

term common among the French to refer to the English-speaking

world's culture, wealth and influence. ``We really wanted to be

as good as the American banks.''

     Five weeks later, the move into equity derivatives passed a

crucial test. On Oct. 19, the Dow Jones Industrial Average

plunged 23 percent, and world markets followed. Mustier's options

trades, many of which bet on market fluctuations rather than

simple appreciation, helped Societe Generale make money during

one of history's greatest market jolts.



                         Global Presence



     Paille and his team acted quickly to build a global presence.

In 1989, Mustier moved to the U.S. to develop trading there,

including currency options on the Philadelphia Stock Exchange.

After a brief stint in Frankfurt, he was named head of options in

Tokyo in 1991.

     By the early 1990s, competitors were hiring away too many

derivatives employees, Paille says, and Societe Generale rejected

his plan to give them a direct stake in the business. He left the

bank in 1993 for Frankfurt to set up Commerzbank AG's derivatives

unit.

     Societe Generale then created a separate unit for equity

derivatives, removing it from the options group, and installed

Mustier as the global head of the new division. Later, Mustier

moved to Hong Kong and rolled out derivatives trading there with

Luc Francois, then head of equity derivatives in Japan.



                            Lyxor Unit



     In 1998, Societe Generale created Lyxor Asset Management to

offer derivative-related instruments in the form of a fund and to

provide options and other derivatives on hedge funds. Lyxor was

also formed to independently monitor and value the external hedge

funds' investments, giving the bank's clients more control over

their risks.

     That same year, Societe Generale came out with its so-called

Mountain Range derivatives. The initial product was named Everest.

It was sold to private banks and allowed an investor to bet on

the performance of a group of stocks.

     Under a contract with a 10-year term, Everest promised to

double the initial investment, plus return an amount based on the

performance of the weakest stock in the basket. If the weakest

performer was flat, investors doubled their initial investment at

maturity. If the poorest-performing company went bankrupt, only

the initial investment was returned. If the weakest stock doubled,

investors got three times the initial investment.



                      No Interest, Dividends



     The risk for investors was that only the guaranteed capital

might be returned -- not interest and dividends they might

otherwise have gotten. A further risk arose if the bank selling

the derivative entered bankruptcy.

     In 2000, Societe Generale opened Inora Life, which sells

life insurance policies whose premiums are invested in

derivative-related instruments that provide an added payoff and

allow clients in some European countries to claim a tax deduction.

     The bank also launched an online service, ClickOptions.com,

aimed at letting individual investors buy options contracts based

on specific market scenarios extending for up to six weeks. An

investor who thought France's CAC 40 Index would rise to a

certain level on a specific day could buy an option on that

scenario for 40 euros. If it materialized, the investor got 100

euros; if not, the 40 euros was lost.

     Over the years, Societe Generale's derivative offerings have

expanded beyond standard contracts, often called plain-vanilla

options, to more complex, so-called exotic instruments. In an

exotic option, the payoff is either linked to several securities

or depends on how a security or index performs before the

instrument matures.



                         Worst Performer



     In the first case, the worst performer in a basket of stocks

may determine the derivative's value at maturity. In the second

case, the bank may place a cap on the monthly return from the

stocks -- 3 percent per month, or 36 percent a year. The floor

might be set at zero, meaning the investor wouldn't lose any

principal should the index decline.

     Paul W****tt, a London-based consultant, says the complexity

is unnecessary. ``I see so many of the term sheets for exotic and

structured products and wonder, Who's interested in these

things?'' says W****tt, the author of ``Derivatives: The Theory

and Practice of Financial Engineering'' (John Wiley & Sons, 199 Cool .

``More than half of them are made for the sake of saying, `We're

more clever than you.'''



                        Complicated Ones



     Many of Societe Generale's instruments, even complicated

ones, give investors at least part of their principal back in

case of a crash, says Bernard Desforges, who heads equity

derivative sales and structuring at the bank. London-based GLG

Partners LP, Europe's largest hedge fund firm, and the wealth-

management unit of Zurich-based Credit Suisse Group are among the

Societe Generale clients that have used structured derivatives.

     Societe Generale customized an equity derivative for a

European insurer in 2004 that consisted of two products the

insurance company could sell to clients. To guarantee the initial

capital at maturity, both included a zero-coupon bond -- a bond

sold at a deep discount to its face value, paying no annual

interest and maturing at its face value.

     In one, a 10-year call option gave customers the right to

buy shares linked to a basket of 15 international stocks. In

another, the call was linked to a European index. The products

guaranteed investors their entire initial capital plus a

predetermined percentage based on the performance of the shares

or index. The investor risks getting only the guaranteed capital

-- not interest and dividends.



                        Ready Talent Pool



     French banks seeking the right people to build and price

derivatives have a ready talent pool. The national mathematics

curriculum is rigorous. By age 16 or 17, students are choosing a

specialty so they can enter preparatory classes needed to sit for

entrance exams for the Grandes Ecoles. The more technical among

them form a feeder system for French banks.

     ``They were eager to enter the real world, meaning apply

academic and scientific backgrounds to build a project and be

judged by its success,'' Paille says of his early recruits. In

one two-year span, he hired half of all the applied math

graduates of Ecole Centrale, or 30 recruits.

     To select the best Grandes Ecoles candidates, French banks

offer internships in Paris or yearlong stints at foreign

subsidiaries.

     ``These graduates typically come from Ecole Polytechnique;

Ecole Centrale; the statistics school, Ensae; and other top

engineering schools,'' recruiter Moussa says. ``They are the

backbone of all the research produced by SG. Pricing exotic

equity derivative options requires impeccable financial

mathematics.''



                           BNP Paribas



     Across town in the Opera district of Paris, rival BNP

Paribas hires many of the same graduates as Societe Generale.

     ``The staffs probably have the same profile, coming from the

same schools and recruitment processes,'' says Olivier Osty,

global head of equity derivatives trading at BNP Paribas.

     Non-French companies recruit as well. Each October,

representatives from banks such as New York-based Lehman Brothers

Holdings Inc. and Barclays Capital turn up at Universite Paris

Dauphine's campus on the western edge of the French capital to

begin courting potential interns, says Helyette Geman, a finance

professor at the school.

     France's mathematics tradition has a direct link to finance.

Louis Bachelier, who examined options pricing in his 1900

dissertation ``Theorie de la Speculation,'' is considered one of

the founders of financial mathematics. He was the first to apply

Brownian motion -- models used to describe random movements, such

as particles in a fluid -- to stock-market fluctuations.



                      `Trained to Do That'



     Alexandre Fleury, head of European structured-products

trading at Societe Generale, says the French have distinguished

themselves in equity derivatives because their love of

complicated math allows them to take more risks.

     ``We're just trained to do that,'' he says.

     Societe Generale's rivals say they plan to catch up. BNP

Paribas and Barclays Capital are looking to the U.S. More

investors in the U.S. are turning to equity derivatives as they

near retirement to ensure they can weather another stock-market

slump, says Santosh Nabar, a managing director at JPMorgan Chase

& Co. in New York.

     Another competitor, Paris-based Credit Agricole SA, France's

biggest bank by assets, hired Marc Litzler, a 13-year Societe

Generale veteran, to help spearhead expansion of its investment

bank, Calyon.

     ``We are a French bank and have a competitive advantage in

that all of the good equity derivatives people are here,'' says

Litzler, who made the switch in 2004.



                       Anglo-Saxon Complex



     Mianne, the head of Societe Generale's equity derivatives

unit, says personnel turnover in the past three years ranges from

6 percent to 10 percent. The unit hired about 100 professionals a

year over the last three years, including traders, salespeople,

and quantitative researchers, and expects to hire about 125 in

2005, he says.

     Mianne's boss, Mustier, expresses confidence about the

future, even as more banks gear up to compete in the U.S. and

Europe -- and poach key executives.

     The market is so large and Societe Generale has been at it

for so long, compared with rivals, that it will be difficult for

others to close the gap, Mustier says.

     His self-diagnosed Anglo-Saxon complex was cured years ago.

To better pursue Societe Generale's strategy for European growth,

Mustier moved to London in 2001.



--With reporting by Justin Baer in New York. Editors: Horvitz

(rah/awj)



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from my an(n)als....





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The article makes it sound like SG is blast proof. What kind of likely/conceivable event could make them blowd up reel good?
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He was sure that his prominent status would cause the other "regulars" to outcast the newcomer as he wished. On the contrary, everyone dug Lilly and even Croke's most vehement beratings fell on def ears. This infuriated Croke even more.
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Modulo simplification and sensationalizing, I thought the article was a genuinely good stab at a real phenomenon and world perception.
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BTW, Eric, they are not blast proof.  If you sell them something highly negatively correlated with obfuscation, them immediately sell them something non-complex, they explode.
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I mentioned in another thread, that a big, purple and rising bank has actually deigned to recruit foreigners into a program. Now let's go to training:



Purple MD (PMD): okay so who here speaks French?

On or two of the new recruits raise their hands

PMD: Bon, c'est pas grave. On va continuer en français.

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Yeah it would be really interesting to see if having so much brainpower, IT, customers' flow and experience can make you blast proof.



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