LENR anyone?

TSWP · Post by **TSWP** » Mon Sep 14, 2015 10:05 am

Nero,

from the information I have gathered through the internet (I am following this story since 2011), it appears that Rossi (and recently a few others) have created a reproducible experiment that shows anomalous energy generation. Rossi is the only one that seems to have a product that could be commercialized relatively soon (a 1 MW plant of the size of a cargo container, currently running in an undisclosed facility closed to the public, scrutinized by an independent examiner that should present an official report in early 2016 - a previous report was published in 2014 by a number of scientists from Italy and Sweden).

The scientific community does NOT accept any LENR experimental result at the moment, because they do not know or understand how it works. Based on existing theories, LENR's anomalous energy generation cannot/should not happen.

But it seems it actually happens...

goldorak · Post by **goldorak** » Mon Sep 14, 2015 10:58 am

May be we should not forget that the guys who accept/refute the results are the "I simulate complex systems and tell you that, yes for sure, humanity is doomed", the "I am developing models that do not even fit the data but will for sure prevent the next financial crisis" and the "there is a strong link between your intake of beta-carotene and the weight of your grand-children at age 13.5" guys. I mean, you know, the ones getting the budgets and who do not want to lose them to someone else.

This gives them lots of credibility and of course I tend to trust whatever is credible.

pj · Post by pj » Mon Sep 14, 2015 12:19 pm

It is clear for me now...

If

Пархомов Александр Георгиевич

allegedly from Lomonosov State University

and who allegedly reproduced LENR results independently

exists, why I am unable too find him anywhere?

I mean I was looking for him in the Moscow Lomonosov University site.

And in not on I_BELIEVE_IN_ROSSI sites (zillions of those).

Also, why at Researchgate his first articles there are from July 26 2015 only?

I don't speak Chinese, but I am sure that one is also a hoax.

I rest my case Cool

TSWP · Post by **TSWP** » Mon Sep 14, 2015 3:53 pm

this article from WIRED UK speaks about Parkhomov and some other replicators, but it is a bit outdated: from January 2015.

the author of another article says:

"Parkhomov is a “known” scientist from a highly reputable Institution, Lomonosov Moscow State University, which I have visited on several occasions. He has published work with friends of mine including Yuri Nikolaevich Bazhutov (Chairman of ICCF13 and member of the IAC) and Peter Sturrock (Stanford University). These are both capable senior scientists and their papers published jointly with Parkhomov are credible."

The author is Dr. Michael McKubre, Director of the Energy Research Center of the Materials Research Laboratory at SRI International. He received B.Sc., M.Sc. and Ph.D. in chemistry and physics at Victoria University (Wellington, New Zealand). He was a Postdoctoral Research Fellow at Southampton University, England. Dr. McKubre joined SRI as an electrochemist in 1978. He is an internationally recognized expert in the study of electrochemical kinetics and was one of the original pioneers in the use of ac impedance methods for the evaluation of electrode kinetic processes. Dr. McKubre has been studying various aspects of hydrogen and deuterium in metals since he joined SRI in 1978, the last 25 years with a close focus on heat measurements. He was recognized by Wired magazine as one of the 25 most innovative people in the world. Dr. McKubre has conducted research in CMNS since 1989.

Email: michaelmckubresricom

NeroTulip · Post by **NeroTulip** » Mon Sep 14, 2015 4:01 pm

"I don't believe your experiment because it does not fit my theory" does not strike me as very scientific. Maybe it's a hoax, maybe it isn't, but that's not the way we will find out.

pj · Post by pj » Mon Sep 14, 2015 4:14 pm

The WIRED article is a prime example of a sloppy journalism.

(Try to google Yuri Nikolaevich Bazhutov (Chairman of ICCF13 and member of the IAC))

89 years old crank?

What are these organizations?

Tradenator · Post by **Tradenator** » Mon Sep 14, 2015 4:32 pm

What about this one? With Burton Richter involved, there is somewhat more credibility. I like how they angled the LINACs so they can recoup some of the energy and recycle it back into the drivers.

EDIT: here they seem to be both upping the temperature (with the linear accelerators) and reducing the Coulomb barrier (using H-B instead of D-D fuel).

TSWP · Post by **TSWP** » Mon Sep 14, 2015 6:54 pm

A little clarification: I did not start this thread to promote LENR, Rossi or Parkhomov or whatever.

I started this thread to ask if any of you has seen LENR reactors at work, or if you know directly people that have seen them generating energy and if you/they think it may be a viable, large scale commercial solution for future energy production.

goldorak · Post by **goldorak** » Mon Sep 14, 2015 7:46 pm

@PJ

"Sloppy" and "journalism", in the same sentence? How is that even possible? How dare you! Applause

I am very disappointed Zero Hedge does not provide any info regarding LENR.

euh, actually, yes they ...do

jslade · Post by **jslade** » Tue Sep 22, 2015 2:01 pm

Re ZH link: Tri Alpha isn't LENR; it's actually a legit fusion semi-breakthrough with sensible and innovative patents.

LENR ... ah, ill calibrated neutron detectors...